As protests enter the several-weeks mark, demands for systemic change echo across the United States, particularly in regards to policing. One of the loudest chants, "Defund the Police," encourages redistribution of funds to social services. Others suggest defunding is dangerous and instead, advocate for reform. Still, others want to abolish the police entirely. Each one of these advocations carries its own difficulties and contradictions. This panel will untangle the concepts of policing, reform and abolition, and justice.